New here

topic posted Fri, September 21, 2007 - 10:05 PM by  kalikat
hi everyone, this is my first post here.

i think i always knew i was bi. i used to mess around with girls when i was i grade school - during sleep overs we would play husband and wife and end up making love. jeez, i remember feeling this way as early as 2nd grade.

my first sexual experience as an adult was in my mid/late twenties, had a sexual relationship with a friend that ended up falling for me, but i didn't feel the same way. i've never actually had a "relationship" with a woman, the interactions i've had have mostly been sexually oriented - altho there is one woman i would have gotten more involved with if she hadn't drank so much booze. alcoholism is unappealing, in a male or female body.

over the years i've noticed that what i'm attracted to is the feminine, whether that package comes in a male or female form isn't all that important, although overall i am more into being with a male partner. i'm super attracted to both feminine men and women . i have a really strong masculine side, as well as a really strong feminine side. the feminine side tends to come out with men, while the more domineering masculine side comes out with women. it feels like an unnatural split that doesn't get addressed ........ and actually creates pain for me in relationships with straight partners.

i recently had a short lived thing with a guy that was bi, my first. i guess i've been with guys that played around but would never identify as bisexual. i am totally stunned at how he was able to meet both of my sides equally, matching my masculine with his feminine and vice versa. i don't know how it never really dawned on me that maybe thats part of the problem with why relationships don't last for me. i look for the external form of a woman to play with the masculine part of me, and a man to play with the feminine side of me. the thought that one person could meet both is so freaking liberating - it got me searching around on tribe for a place to talk about it.

do other people here have any of these similar gender identity issues that have either come to the surface or been resolved by being in relationship with bisexual partners?
posted by:
kalikat
SF Bay Area
  • Re: New here

    Sat, September 22, 2007 - 8:27 AM
    hi there loveie, no cause for me i am both cause i am intersexed, but i love my men both fem and mas and my women the samn. the only thing is if your going to be a lez you don't need to try to look or act like a guy and vica versa. if i want to be with a woman i want my woman to look like a woman other wise i would be with a man i don't mind my men dressing up but please don't be a sissy unless we are role playing ;) all i ask from a person is be them selfs and don't change to impress me be real..... cause for my love knows no gender race or age.......so there you have it babe, i never discremante anyone i love all............ but it is hard to find a true bi girl most of my experionces have been with eather str8 or gay females but no bi gal's where are thay i live in the bay area and can't find one if my life depended on it. i am a happily married bi intersexed female that has children am a swingger and am verry poly.......... so please tell me where the lovely ladys are at cause i want one for a friend with benifits.........;)
  • Re: New here

    Mon, September 24, 2007 - 1:05 AM
    Yup...I have two bi boyfriends now (I'm poly) and I find that other bisexuals understand me better, and I understand them better. I think bisexuality extends to more than just who you have sex with, for some people....bisexuals often tend to be more open to a lot of things, at least the out ones, because they're open to both their masculine and feminine sides, and I find both of my sides complimented with them.
    • Re: New here

      Mon, September 24, 2007 - 5:38 PM
      i dont really have a lot of bi friends but i am and it is hard to find anyone here where i am ..... but i get a harshness with the gays and lesbeins and with the straits down here it like i dont belong to either side. i have some of the same problems as you do with the whole relationship thing but i have a more fem side with the girls and have a biger dom side with a male partner. so in texas i just try my best to gren and bare the hard truth that i only fit in on the internet ..lol . but anyways im sabrina and im new here to so hi. im just trying to hang in there and dont know if its really working
  • Re: New here

    Tue, September 25, 2007 - 1:30 AM
    "oddly" enough I only fully became fully comfortable as female (in gender, I've always been okay with my fem bio) when I came out to myself as bi.

    Unlike others who have posted here I have dated multiple bi individuals (of varying gender) and have actually found them to be overall less satisfying in a relationship then straight guys or lesbians. I am not all that surprised by this as I seem to need a strong male or female presence and most bisexuals I've dated have not had the ability to hold the one gender. (One female did... but we had other issues.) So I seem to have the opposite issue...
  • Re: New here

    Tue, September 25, 2007 - 6:57 AM
    <the feminine side tends to come out with men, while the more domineering masculine side comes out with women. it feels like an unnatural split that doesn't get addressed ........ and actually creates pain for me in relationships with straight partners. >

    I can totally relate to this. With women, my masculine side comes out and I tend to take control of the situation. I've only been with bi or bi-curious women so it never lasts, as they tend to not be able to accept their bi side and they get scared of me and run. Not that I expect a relationship, but I do try to see how far I can push the envelope sometimes, especially if she's got me head-over-heels in lust.

    With men I tend to be very feminine, so it's a completely different situation. I tend to find men rather dull in comparison. Maybe it's just because I've been with many since a teenager, and it's just not that exciting anymore. Maybe it's because they are so disappointing. Maybe because they look rediculous naked. Eh, maybe all the above. They're a tool for getting off as far as I'm concerned and not much more. Except friendship, of course. And doing stuff around the house that I can't do. ;-)

    I think you and I have a lot in common, KaliKat, except I didn't know about my bi self until in my late 20's.
  • Re: New here

    Tue, September 25, 2007 - 4:46 PM
    I too only fairly recently have been in a pretty serious relationship with a bi guy and it's been exactly as you described...

    " i am totally stunned at how he was able to meet both of my sides equally, matching my masculine with his feminine and vice versa."

    I'm LOVIN' it!
    • Re: New here

      Tue, September 25, 2007 - 10:47 PM
      wow, i'm so happy you all responded! its like this deep hidden side of me is being heard for the first time, even by me. i just realized all this.i've always fantasized about a bi boyfriend - and mercilessly teased the ones i had and all my male friends about their secret bisexuality, which they grew tired of. talk about projection....

      sabrina i used to hang out with some lesbian girlies who always called me a straight girl, it would make me kinda mad, so i know that feeling.

      schirin - some guys don't look ridiculous naked...but girls sure are purdy. :)

      "B" - i'm totally envious! where do you find bi guys? the one i met was kind of a fluke, and doesn't live around here. i live in the northbay of SF, not much here besides old hippies raising kids, rich grape owners and dreadhead dope growers. there is a strong gay and lesbian community out at the river - guerneville - but bi guys? they don't really advertise themselves.
      not that i'm looking to find someone here, i'm just really curious. do you go to support groups or gay clubs or whaaaat?

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