The way others view us vs. how we view ourselves

topic posted Thu, October 1, 2009 - 11:46 PM by  cory
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I've found that straight women view me as a slut for being bi. And straight and gay men usually view me as in the closet! But I see myself as a rich, balanced personality who can appreciate so much more of the Universe than either gays or straights can. Like listening in stereo rather than monaural (sp?)

How about you?
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cory
Arizona
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  • I see that your happy in your life as I'm almost happy in mine. I've been married for under 2 years. I think I can trust men more than women at this time and be even happier. I've been bi since 18yo and wish I've never been with women. I prefer men over women now.
    • Why and how, do you prefer men over women? For sex? Companionship?
      • I trust men more than women, because of the mere fact, we trust ourselves more than women trust themselve. What I mean is, I can go out on the town and find an attractive man and take him home and have a great time. A woman, you have to watch your p's and q's and only hope for the best.

        I like/love men due to the fact we are more relaxed and we do like to show our compasion to each other, and have a little sex. Sex for me is over-rated, but when you are with someone, you don't immediatly accuse them of screwing around or talking to someone on the internet, or flirting when you haven't. Men are more relaxed. Women are sceptical and extremely judgemental.
  • I agree with your perception Cory. Most women are afraid and threatened by male bisexuality. Straight men, if they are really straight, do not understand how a man can be attracted to men and women for they do not possess that capacity for attraction. I have only met a few gay men however, who have never been attracted to women, at least as friends. However, their attraction and primary desire is for men and thus they feel your should be as well. I wish I had a community of bisexual men to hang with but that does not exist in most communities. Bisexuals are the most closeted of all the orientations for the reason mentioned here.
  • I've never had any trouble, any negative perceptions, from other women or men. Most straight men, in my experience, find it a bit of a turn on. :-)) I wonder if things are generally more relaxed in England than the States?
    • I think it's less a matter of geography and more a matter of gender. Men see two women together as natural. Men often perceive women as more sensual, and imagine women kissing and undressing around each other as the status quo. Men like fantasizing about women together because they like fantasizing about them separaately. And two women together doubles the pleasure of the fantasy - or the reality - for the man. If it turns out the women's feelings exclude the man, well, he still has them for fantasy, if not for play. And reality for a man rarely succeeds as well as fantasy, more's the pity!

      On the other hand, Europeans in general are freer sexually than Americans in general.
    • Men are pleased when women enjoy sensuality and sexuality. Most women are guarded and conditional regarding sex. If I meet a woman who is bisexual I know she enjoys sensuality and sexuality and most likely has fewer rules and preconceptions regarding sex. Since most woman would prefer a man who only wants to have sex with them; they are not attracted to a man who has an open mind about sexuality.
      • Interesting thread. I am bisexual, but not entirely "out" about it. What I mean is that I know for sure I am sexually attracted to women as well as men, but I have never gone "all the way" with a woman, although I'd like to with the right one very much! The physical experience I have had with a woman were some of the most erotic of my life. I do also tell my male partners about my attraction to women and like others have said, men in general are more than OK with it because they want to be in on it!

        I am also in agreement about women and men, straight, gay or bi not being as "OK" with bi men. I have never dated a bi man but I believe I would be insecure that he was really more into men than me as a woman. Ironically fantasizing about my boyfriend making out with my friends bf and more, does arouse me. If I see two attractive men kissing, I find that hot as well. Also, like many people, I have heard gay men say many times that bi men are really gay and not able to fully come out about it.

        In matters of the heart this type of thing is complex. Glad there is this forum to discuss it.
        • Busty, it sounds like you're right about the same place that my lady is right now. Has done some experimenting with ladies, but just not gone all the way yet. We had some great times with a lady I met, but she was in that same place, too, and I just couldn't get either one of them to go down on the other. I think they would both have enjoyed it immensely, just as I do. But it was still quite a good experience being in bed with the two of them.

          We're going to a giant swinger's club this weekend, we'll see what happens, and all of my friends here will be the first to get the juicy details.
          • I hope that goes well Lester, do let us know all about it. The woman that I have had some very hot sexual experience with and I have talked about going to a swingers event in our coummunity too just to check it out. I have been trying to full on have sex with her for about 4 years, but she has concerns about how it will effect our friendship and also she has this horrible bf, but that is a long story...

            So it's not that I haven't wanted to "go downtown" in recent years but that I have not had the opportunity with anyone that I wanted to be with.

            I know, I know, it's mind boggling.... :-)
            • I look at it this way. My lady LOVES giving pleasure to others, just like I do. The energy that I feel from a woman when I go down on her and give her a mind boggling orgasm, or two, or a dozen, (depending on the woman), is awesome. I want her to feel that. She has made our friend feel REALLY good by fingering her, but fingering alone doesn't get our friend off. To me, it's just another part of her sexuality, one that hasn't been explored yet, and I want to explore it with her.

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