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topic posted Thu, August 13, 2009 - 3:23 PM by  Lester
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Just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Lester, and I am a straight man in a committed relationship with a bi-curious girlfriend. Already this year, we have satisfied her long time fantasy of having two men at once. We still do that on a regular basis, and she loves it. But we want to explore her other side. I would love to see her and another woman together.
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Lester
San Diego
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  • From what I've seen, lots of guys talk a good show when it comes to two women getting together. But when one of them is his SO, most of them back down from that enthusiasm. Sounds like insecurity to me. I have no fear that my honey is going to leave me and go off with another woman. Why would she, when she can have it both ways? It's tough for a guy in a relationship to be out there looking around for bisexual women for his lady to play with though. I've never been in this situation. Any suggestions on how to break that particular topic with a lady that I'm casually talking with?
    • "It's tough for a guy in a relationship to be out there looking around for bisexual women for his lady to play with though."

      Most women (in my experience) prefer to be approached by the woman if a couple is interested in them. Too many instances of women "doing it for their man" or not really actually being bi, and such. Plus, certainly in my case, if I were to date a couple, I'd want to be ABSOLUTELY sure that everyone was equally on board. I would suggest that your SO get to know some local bi/lesbian women. Hang out in a group, meet some people, that kind of thing. Most people are much happier knowing that they aren't being sought out just to be a sex toy (not that you are looking at it this way, Lester), so getting to be pals with some people is a great start : ).
      • You're right about it seeming more "real" if it's coming from the female half of the couple. That's why I hesitate, and am unsure how to proceed when I meet a lady that I would like to share with my lady.
        • This could be a resource for meeting bi-friendly people in your area:

          groups.yahoo.com/group/BiForumSD/

          I'll have to think about your issue of meeting a woman and then broaching the subject to her. I mean, do you know that these women are bi, or are you just talking about meeting an attractive person in general and wondering how to discuss it with her?
          • To be honest about it, the woman doesn't even have to be bi. Every couple that agrees to do things with people outside their relationship makes rules, and it's important to follow those rules, lest feelings get hurt. Our rules cover lots of different areas, because we want to know up front the kind of things that would make one of us uncomfortable. When we were looking for a guy to help fulfill my honey's desire to have two men at once, we looked for things like making sure that we actually LIKE the guy, outside the hotel room as well as inside. Another attribute that was required was that he be straight. People can call it homophobic if they like, but I wouldn't feel comfortable naked in bed with a man that is bi-sexual. No offense to you bisexual guys out there, I have nothing against you, I just don't want to go to bed with you. Doesn't matter why, if it makes either one of us uncomfortable, we don't do it. The two men in that bed with my honey are there to pay attention to her, and of course to enjoy the experience themselves. No need for the men to be pleasuring each other, there is a woman there for that. And we're all happy.

            So when we are looking for a woman, she could be bi, lesbian, or straight. Either would be fine with me. If she's a lesbian, and wants nothing to do with me, but would be ok with me being there, fine. I would be ok with either watching the two of them exploring each other, or maybe participating only to the extent that both of them are comfortable. If the woman were straight, then it would be a lot like when we have our gentleman friend with us, only both of them pleasing me, and me pleasing both of them. Of course, in my eyes, the ideal woman would be bi, so we can all please each other.

            So, to answer your question, I don't rule out any woman that I might meet, just because she may or may not be bi. If she is attractive and likable for both my honey and I, then there are options to be explored. But like you said, it is easier for women to work this kind of thing into conversation without offending anyone than it is for the male side of the couple. For example, the link you provided. In the process of signing up for that group, there is a window for explaining why you want to join the group. Everything I tried ended up sounding awkward. So I saved the link, and will have my lady sign up for it instead. It will sound much better coming from her than from me.

            I feel like most people would just look at me as a lecherous old man trying to get two women in the sack together. And I won't deny that part of it. But I think that they might miss the bigger part of it, which is the two of us wanting to do something together. That's the really important part of this. Experiencing this together.
            • I guess I'd think in terms of who we really want to make happy in this scenario - who is most interested or invested - and let *them* find the person that will get them close to their goal. Part of getting what you want is the getting, right? I know that *I* appreciate things more when I've put in the time and energy to make sure that it's pretty much exactly what I was looking for, for what it's worth to y'all. :o) All I'm saying is that if this is something she wants to make happen, she should make it happen. Not your problem or responsibility. If, however, you're the more motivated party, being "straight" from the beginning of a connection about your intentions will weed out who is there for you, or who could roll with what you want. Craigslist almost certainly could yield results, but my preference would be to just meet and get to know people over time, and see how things work out. Best wishes, dear!
  • Thanks for the advice Misha. I hear what you're saying. I think we both want it, I know I do. I've been in a "swinging" relationship before, and I enjoyed it, but my partner back then was not into women at all. Now I have this lovely lady, who has entertained thoughts of being with women many times in the past, but never acted on it. Now, we have a guy that we do MFM with on a regular basis, and she loves that. In fact, we just got home from a few hours of pleasuring her that way. She says she really wants to see me have the same kind of experiences. Not to mention that she is definitely attracted to the ladies, too. So I know it will happen, and I'm not in a rush.

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